I Believe in the Insurrection…
I am currently planning my ‘Insurrection’ pub tour. The first leg of which will be taking place over Easter 2010.
Through a rich cocktail of musical lament, poetic provocation and incendiary theology each evening of the tour will seek to call a new army of agitators into being. Dissidents courageous enough to set fire to their own communities in fidelity to the event which gave birth to them.
A decisive act that will strip everything from us, incinerate everything we hold dear and inaugurate a new year zero.
In short, the ‘Insurrection’ tour sets out to remind us that belief in the event of Resurrection means nothing less than unconditional participation in an Insurrection.
More details to follow in the coming weeks…
Please note that this tour involves the use of strong language and ideas that may be unsuitable for those easily offended
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:48 am
Peter, are you only doing large cities? We would to have you come through Williamsport, Pa! Are the venues set?
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:51 am
Are we having 1641 flashbacks Peter ?
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:27 am
INSURRESURRECTION!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Pete-hope you’ll be coming to San Antonio or hereabouts
November 22nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
This sounds excellent.
November 22nd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Saw you at the Grand Rapids conference last summer. Hope you come to Baltimore!
November 22nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
lovelovelove the advisory at the bottom…
November 22nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
I will share and support. Can’t wait !!
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Any chance the tour will be venturing into the southern plains? Oklahoma City is ready for an Insurrection (or I should say it is already stirring up in pockets of our city)!! We would love some time to pick your brain.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
WE need you guys BADLY in Sacramento, CA as the emerging conversation is sorely lacking here. Sacramento is progressive on social issues but VERY CONSERVATIVE on theological issues. HELP! i want to start something here.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:17 pm
This sounds sexy. Birmingham or Atlanta–gotta make it happen. Btw welcome to the other side of the pond…
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Austin or San Antonio please!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:20 pm
I am passionate about Liberation Theology so this sounds AWESOME!!! Chi-city needs this message…I will bring a gang of people!!!! SO EXCITED!!! If you don’t come to Chicago, I’m going to make it to whatever city is closest. The pic is dope.
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:09 am
Please, do remember all of us here in Colorado.
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:28 am
Thanks for all the comments! I am excited about this tour. A lot of you are asking where we will be going. Firstly I need to say that I wish I go have this on the road for a LONG time and go everywhere. I will be touring with some other people who I think the world needs to meet.
However the problem is that this tour is experimental and expensive. Whereas I could have gone to churches and be paid I am having to fund this myself. I am hoping someone may help sponsor the tour, but until then we have to keep it small and to places where we know people who will work with us.
If however you are confident that you could supply a good venue and get a lot of people into it then it would be great to hear from you as we are finalizing locations on the 2nd December. Just drop me a facebook message.
I can confirm that Austin is on the cards as the first US location (and it will likely kick off in my hometown of Belfast).
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:08 am
A friend sent me this link. I need to lear more. But here is my initial response. I was invited to visit L’Arche Daybreak last year. Going required me to miss teaching one Sunday with our small Sunday School class of members in their 80s and 90s. One of the class members was confused about why I would spend my time at a place like L’Arche, when I could be there teaching them. I gently pointed out that some people at Duke would consider their class also a strange way to use my time. Is there any chance that this is the sort of insurrection we are called to? Is there a chance that cool/sexy is not quite the right route?
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Is “insurrection” a catch phrase, or something more substantial to you? Folks throw revolution language around all the time, and most of those folks mean it in less-than-revolutionary sort of ways.
So, forgive my skepticism. But I know actual insurrectionists who have done time in prison, who have been kicked out of the military, who have lost their careers, etc on fostering actual revolution. Could you help me understand what your tour would do to complement or add to the ongoing struggle of folks already engaged in insurrection?
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
INSURRESURRECTION!!!
That reminded me of a painting by Anselm Kiefer called “Resurrexit” (a portmanteau of “resurrection” and “exit” not the Latin word).
November 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I like Mark’s question. I’m also tired of the theology/theory vs. praxis debate as if they can really be divided. Still, there is going to be some distance between the soldier who is kicked out of the army and the theologian that subverts the theological status quo in America. In reading Pete’s work, I see him as subverting the theological framework that many American Christians hide behind to rationalize a self-centered/material life. It’s not quite the same as losing your job (even thought what Pete does he does at great economic risk), but necessary none the less. He’s removing the cover that people hide behind which is the elephant in the room relative to large scale insurrection. Unless we dethrone the sanctified American dream and place the Liberating King Jesus in it’s stead, insurrection will always be local and limited instead of transformational at the systemic level. Not sure it’s fair to pit theological/philosophical insurrection over and against doing time in prison, etc. Calling one “actual” and the other “not” misses the importance of theology/philosophy/worldvieiw in shaping the actual behavior of individuals.
November 23rd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
I think what Pete is doing is working out fairly well for him financially. Let’s be honest here: provocative ideas sell. If challenging the ideological status quo was a risky endeavor, folks like Shane Claiborne wouldn’t have the success he’s having. That isn’t to challenge Shane (or Peter Rollins). It is, simply, to recognize that challenging ideas pose a limited threat to the powers-that-be.
I am all for Peter and others pushing ideological buttons. But that isn’t “insurrection.” I get that there is no real division between radical philosophical/theological stuff and praxis/action stuff. However, allow me to push back a bit…
Right now, we have a rather large glut of radical God-talk (or God non-talk as it may be in the case of Peter Rollins). I’m not saying it is bad to talk and theorize. I spend a good deal of energy doing that myself. However, I try to do that in concert and coordination with radical groups of praxis. My question for Peter is: is he doing this in concert and coordination with groups of praxis, or is this falling into the tradition of abstracted-from-life radical theorizing?
I know it isn’t fair to assume that, but these days so many have commoditized and marketed pseudo-radicalized capitalism in ways that actually deepen the coopting of dissent. I realize that this sounds neo-Marxist (because it kinda is) but what we need is more praxis (in the Freirean sense) that liberates space.
One more gentle push back: I am all for transformation at the systemic level–but I think that there is a strong tendency for the call to “systemic transformation” to dismiss actual radical movements. Some folks, in the desire to see “change” try to go for widespread change and simply get absorbed into the system. I believe that systemic change generally requires networked local change. In other words, it is nigh impossible to transform the whole pie if there aren’t committed groups working in their respective slices.
The better strategy (instead of national tours with national speakers who challenge ideas) is to foster and nurture growing clusters of praxis who can, collectively coordinate change. That is, as history teaches us, largely how insurrection happens. If Peter wants to be a part of that collective coordination that’s great. That’s what I’m wondering–how his tour fits into what is already happening. Or is it an isolated tour superimposing a theological/philsophical vision without attention being given to connect people to living, breathing, pockets of resistance.
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Mr Van Steenwyk:
“The better strategy…is to foster and nurture growing clusters of praxis who can, collectively coordinate change.” – that’s something Pete’s trying to do!
If you’re so bothered about praxis why do you keep blathering on? Stick your hand in your pocket and give Pete some money instead.
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Point taken, Clare. I suspect our definitions of “clusters of praxis” may be different. I certainly didn’t intend to “blather” but to raise questions that come from an honest (and practical, thank you very much) perspective. I think I’ll pass on giving Peter money, though…I assume he’s doing fairly well already.
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Mr Van Steenwyk:
I am concerned that Pete’s work has a significant impact in the nation that arguably needs it most. To the best of my knowledge he has never been afforded such an opportunity as this (i.e being able to live and work in the US/tour extensively) and I hope he makes an impression of considerable depth.
I am also concerned because of the numbers of people I’ve encountered during ample amounts of voluntary work over the years, who seem content to just sit around yakking.
As for the tour finances; you “assume” this aspect is well taken care of. I’d assume not.
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November 23rd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Hey Mark, this is the same fellow Mennonite, michael danner, that argued your radical praxis deserves more attention in MC USA. I’ve also read everything Peter has published. Not to defend Pete, but I think a conversation between the two of you would generate more light than heat.
It’s clear from your responses here that you are reacting to something, but I’m not sure it is something that is present in Peter’s published works or praxis.
I think your analysis of how insurrection/revolutionary language is absorbed by status quo is on point. If everyone who talked about revolution engaged in revolutionary praxis (myself included) we would already have a different world. I would encourage you to give Pete the benefit of the doubt.
As for Pete’s Pub Tour, I hope and pray it bears fruit!
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Michael,
You are probably right that I should give Peter the benefit of the doubt. I tried to acknowledge (though I may have failed) that I could be wrong about my working assumptions here. However, as far as I can tell, Peter’s connections with groups that are actually engaged in nonviolent insurrectionary and subversive activities is limited.
My overarching point is this: if this insurrection tour is about provocative ideas presented artfully I wouldn’t call it insurrection–that would be coopting radical language for something that is merely controversial for those within a certain educated hipster Christian mindset. To me, insurrection would necessarily connect with actually liberating the oppressed.
If that is what Peter is aiming to do, and he’s working in solidarity with those who are already doing that, then I will gladly eat crow. I’m not trying to pick a fight here…I’m trying to provoke some sort of response.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Peter, see you in DC (if the tour makes it here).
To the others who are getting caught up in the fact that Peter uses ‘revolutionary language’, I found this post from Julie Clawson helpful in terms of where Peter is going with it:
Insurrection for Peace:
“…He said that, yes, in the grand scheme of things we are part of a revolution, but we will never see its end or entire scope. So instead of confusing critics by speaking of revolutions, we should instead start seeing ourselves as merely part of insurrections. Where we see oppression and injustice in the world, we rise up against it. We are the creators of the systems of this world, we are the ones fueling the oppression, and so we can be the ones to insist upon change and recreate it. It isn’t about ushering in the Kingdom in all its fullness, it is about being the resistance movement in the places where the Kingdom is already under attack…”
I’ll be honest, it comes off as a bit of sour grapes to claim that other people can’t use a metaphor because they’re not as revolutionary as me or my friends who were in jail. I think the point is that we’re all involved in different insurrections depending what context we are in and those battles may look quite different from each other.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:35 am
Wow the sheer amount of conjecture on marks behalf is astounding. What an act of hospitality (praxis) and curiousity. Since when did the agenda and rules of belonging to this conversation get set in stone Mark. It seems the provoked response is yours and I’m sure we are all curious as to what the actual beef is with you.
It seems to me that just from these comments there are plenty of places that can be inspired to action why so pissy?
Also, I’m fairly certain peter will share privately his income for 2008 and it is quite clear he hasn’t been at this for money.
8th commandment anyone (ortho)
Enstad
November 24th, 2009 at 1:32 am
I apologize for calling into question Peter’s economic motives…that wasn’t my intention. When I said that he is doing financially well from this, I was attempting to challenge the statement above that “what Pete does he does at great economic risk.” I took that to mean that his overall ministry was a financial risk. I was pushing back on that.
My “beef” is with an overall trend, and not with Peter per se. But he certainly fits the trend. My goal throughout this all has been to ask “How is this tour going to buck the trend?”
Where is the beef coming from? From the use of the word “insurrection.” That is a very important and heavy word. When someone uses it, they should mean it. The image above is of a raised fist, and Peter says that he’s going around to call “an army of agitators into being. Dissidents courageous enough to set fire to their own communities in fidelity to the event which gave birth to them.”
If he means that in the truly liberatory sense that the words should mean, then fine. I don’t believe I’m out of line to push the question: do you really mean that? I’m sure that almost everyone who reads this thinks I’m over-reacting and being pissy. But I wonder if that is because I am pissy or it is because the word “insurrection” doesn’t actually mean the complete upheaval of our economic, political, and social realities? When folks give their lives (as in the Chiapas) or their livelihoods for such an insurrection, it is worth posing the question to those who may be using such language for something entirely different.
I suspect that I’m just speaking a different language with a very different vantage point here. It is probably best if I just go away and let people enjoy their insurrection.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:19 am
Peter,
Are you coming to Nashville?…Please make a stop here in the Bible belt.Not everyone here thinks you are a heretic.;^) Love your work and can’t wait to see you on this tour.peace…
November 24th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Just glanced at this great and passionate conversation but am wary of jumping in as it would require saying a lot.
One thing I should say however in response to idea that I am financially comfortable is that my work has meant living on unemployment benefit for 4 years, living in a working class, violent estate for 5 years, living with 4 others in a condemned building for 7 years and never having enough money to ever pay taxes.
I don’t want to sound like I am moaning cause I have loved most of this time and the lifestyle was one that flowed from the decisions I made. I just find it hard when people imagine me getting rich off my commitments. I promise that whatever my ’success’ might look like from the outside anyone who knows me will tell you it is very different from the inside.
Also, if people think that my books make me money I can honestly tell you that my sales are very very small (if you read me you are part of a tiny group, even though the internet may lead you to think otherwise) and my royalties for all my books to date would not amount to enough to live on for even 6 months.
Now a couple of months ago, at the age of 36, I received a profoundly generous gift that has allowed me to live and work in the US for a year. So I have a year of not having to worry about paying my next phone bill, and I am living temporarily in a beautiful area. So far this has allowed me the opportunity to do my work in a more focused way. Time will tell whether it positively effects my output or negatively effects it. But when my time is up I will likely be returning to the working class estate that I left a few months ago.
Of course those who know me know my faults and if you knew them you might never read me again! But being an armchair activist is not one of them. I should also say that I am schooled in the radical tradition (under James Daly), have many activist friends (some of whom have done extensive prison sentences), and don’t use ‘insurrection’ language lightly!
November 24th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Not that you should have to defend yourself Peter.
That, plus, just the act of Protestant/Catholic/Atheist folks coming together in Belfast of all places is an act of insurrection.
I think there is a tipping point possible in the Christian community in the US and we need more inspiration, more theology, more guests from outside (and the European emerging church is MUCH more ahead of us and is MUCH more needed in this conversation [I think of Moot and Vox and Si Johnston, and and and]).
So, in deference to Mark and what he has pulled together at Missio Dei, I will say I am more aware of where his remark came from but even more convinced that it is not Peter Rollins who it should be aimed at.
Later.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Mark,
I really do hear where you are coming from and I don’t know Pete, just spoke at a conference together and a bit of email banter.
But I have worked with, and share in common with Pete very well respected activist friends who have spent much more time in prison than u or I (Pete I’m thinking of Treena and Cairon in particular).
Pete was also very supportive of our recent time behind bars challenging the war in Afghanestan (not a great move if your only concern is PR & popularity).
In conclusion, I think Pete should take u on tour and you can both help keep oneanother accountable. (hey, once I’m finished talking with Shane Claiborne at the conference they’re bringing me to the US next year, maybe we can join ya!
p.s. Mark John Dear needs an answer by next week
November 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Just two cents from a guy that lives a little weird for our developed, consumerist, american culture… but not so weird or strong that i feel qualified to be called an “insurrectionist”
I hear Mark 100% and reading bits from jesus manifesto, I’m pretty confident he has only the best intentions and needn’t be lectured on the ten commandments… I think he is well aware of them all.
At the same time, I’m not sure Peter is at fault either.
You may simply look at Jesus and the three years He spent with His “discipleship group.” You check in with the gang on the night of His arrest, and Peter is still chopping off ears and hoping for a revolution at sword point. Judas just finished selling Him out, and everybody else runs.
My point, of course, is I think there is always a gulf between the teachings and praxis of a true leader and the lagging praxis of his/her followers or students.
I’m not sure we can blame Peter for the fact that many of us here in America have developed a real taste for coffee and abstract theology that often impersonates philosophy and makes us feel smart, but above all else, has become awfully trendy.
In and of itself, there is nothing wrong with that. At the same time, I am positively certain, giving the leadership in these various little movements the benefit of the doubt, that they intend for their words and teachings and directives to be taken seriously.
If they’re taken seriously enough to start little theology pubs but not seriously enough to stop being consumers, or shopping at walmart, or filling up our pickup trucks, or buying goods produced in dehumanizing manners, then that is, by no means, the fault of the leaders (I think).
But in the end, Mark is right. We all still lag very far behind the Master and none of us (at least that I know) are anywhere near the variety of sacrificial and radical lifestyle that people like the Chiapas model. If anyone is living like this stateside, I think we need to see what this looks like here.
I, for one, could use the example
November 24th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Pete,
Sorry for the ruckus. You see, there’s this guy named Mark who is trying to buy up all the real estate on all things radical. And well, you’ve moved into town and now it’s as if his real estate investment feels a bit threatened. So he’s going out of his way to market himself again as the real revolutionary (a new form of righteousness? a new orthodoxy?). All it seems to take is a hipster Fidel hat, a well-oiled website, and a few Catholic worker friends. And then you fend off all the impostors that aren’t contributing to your blog. So apparently the word “insurrection” was already trademarked.
Anyway, how’s that for a hospitable welcome to the land of the free?
I’m sorry. It’s really silly.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Thank you Joshua.
For the record, my intentions were good. I came on too strong. I get that. I’ve apologized to Peter. Folks are continuing to send me hate mail, angry tweets, and are commenting on JesusManifesto calling me an asshole.
I don’t mind the hate as much as I mind folks not engaging the overall point that I am trying to make–and I now believe is one of the points that Peter is trying to make–this society, reality, domination system in which we live has enslaved our imaginations, crushed millions of people, and all the while we are trying to consume or entertain our way out of it.
Real insurrections are needed. As a Mennonite who is committed to Jesus’ way of peace, I’d prefer nonviolent insurrections, but as a liberationist with strong affinity for anarchistic political approaches, I am not in a place to demand that it happen peaceably.
So, once again, I apologize for using Peter as my foil. But I hope you all can understand that this isn’t about my ego. I see a very dire world and am trying (along with many friends) to push beyond superficiality to something that can reshape the landscape.
I will be happy to give Peter the benefit of the doubt that he isn’t a part of the superficializing and commodifying of radical movements and ideas. But please don’t dismiss the overarching concerns that I have because you think I’m an asshole. Please think beyond your grumpiness with me to the larger issues.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Is the Amy Laura who commented Amy Laura Hall of Conceiving Parenthood fame? (I would guess less people have read that book than Pete’s).
Mark’s comment aside, I thought she raised an intelligent question about the nature of insurrection and sexy/cool. She wants to know if insurrection will be tied to the very uncool and sexy practice of leading Sunday School for a small group of 90 year olds and helping the severely mentally disability.
She rightly points out that some of the comments where on cool and sexiness and wonders if these selflessly uncool things are included in that. How does a comment like that get so ignored from a well thought through and interesting theologian? Who knows.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Amazing!! I don’t know mark and know peter only a little from reading and hearing him speak, not to mention the odd facebook conversation. I think that mark did mean well in all this and was just presenting some ideas.
Personally i know for me that reading Peter’s books (along with others) has helped me down the path of questioning and challenging assumptions. That seems to be his gift. Cool
Does he “do praxis”-no clue although icon seems pretty praxis like to me. Does it matter? Have we all forgotten the very easy teaching of jesus about all of us not being hands or feet but all haveing vital roles? Ok even if someone isn’t “doing praxis” (which is so weird to say) but instead is making us question how/why and what we do-that isn’t service? Isn’t that praxis?
Wow again Wow
November 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I’ve not had the time to read through the whole comments – sorry, but when I read “I think what Pete is doing is working out fairly well for him financially…” I just get very fucked off and jump to the leave comment box.
I know Pete well. I know the cash he’s put into this. I know this is a non-profit tour. I know that writing books like this is no route to riches. FAR from it. I know Pete could turn a lovely dollar doing big cash gigs, but isn’t doing so.
Thanks for the apology Mark. I hope it’s well meant. It’s been pretty unseemly if you’ve been getting hate-tweets, so hope you’re OK too. There should be lessons here.
November 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Unike Jesus Manifesto, I don’t see any sponsorship requests on this blog… Small thing, but important.
November 24th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Yay – go Kester!!
November 24th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
The apology is well meant. I’m not being sneaky in anything I said. I’m a pretty transparent guy.
Man, if there is one phrase I wish I could take back it is the “I think what Pete is doing is working out fairly well for him financially…” comment. It was a poor choice in words that didn’t get across what I was aiming for and was written flippantly for effect.
I had no idea that when I jumped into this yesterday that I would end up sitting in front of a computer all day trying to respond to messages. But I think it is worth it. I think, now that things are (hopefully) calming down, that the issues that I’m trying to raise can be addressed.
The more we can move this from Mark vs. Pete to the issue of “what is insurrection and how can we move towards it in a land that commodifies everying?” the better off we’ll all be.
November 24th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Well Peter, no pressure to produce now is there?
November 24th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Marks challenge is not unreasonable and I’m happy to be here to say that.
I am a fan of Pete, his thought and his writings, since we met a couple of years ago but that does not mean he is beyond challenge. I find much in his writing that gives credance to me as a crap academic, but as the radical activist on the ground. And I use radical because although I have taken the financial and political hits for speaking out, insurrectionist is probably still too high a claim for me to make comfortably or honestly.
Martin Luther King – Letter from a Birmingham Jail. This debate reminded me of it.
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/letter.html
“I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice;”
November 24th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
If we burn down the house of being and get about to the business of doing, I think you’ll have done us all a great favor Pete by striking the match. And when its all said and done, the Christian hipster should be just as challenged as the fundamentalist – different bedrooms, same house, no?
I for one knew your economic background isn’t the lucrative goldmine some seem to think. Thank you sir for living the life you have. Just don’t go selling out on us, eh?
November 24th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Amylaura, your comment strikes me as a bit needy for some kind of revolutioary affirmation.
You are affirmed. You are in. You are an insurrectionista
November 25th, 2009 at 1:11 am
I find it odd that not much was made of the contextual deconstruction employed by replacing “insurrection” for “resurrection”. Its like people are so busy defending what is “really rebelious” that they forget the entire reason for the choice of words. I think Pete is a truly great teacher and guide. I have learned much from him and even though weve only met once for a few hours i found Pete to be a really genuine person. I hope his work is blessed and Ill do whatever I can to promote the insurrection tour. As far as “selling-out” I trust Pete as an Artist, a philosopher, and a theologian. Were all “selling” something and I think its really lame when people get mad over others success. If there is one person in the world right now who I hope will become REALLY successful in his work, its Peter Rollins. Man, I hope u bring the tour down southeast (birmingham, atlanta??)
November 25th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Please someone send me hate tweets! I don’t get enough hate tweets. If ya’ll wanna hate tweet on someone hate tweet on me.
Poor ol’ Mark was just making comments in good faith. I like how hipster we all get about it. Let’s ride that emotion wave all the way in, right? Lets clothe it in Jesus talk!
We should all wear our red plaid shirts and poofy scarves today.
Please send me hate mail. and make sure you use “strong language.”
oooohhh…..
November 26th, 2009 at 8:44 am
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November 28th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Please come to Minneapolis! With the number of colleges/universities/seminaries we have in this area….we could easily fill an auditorium.
January 6th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Pete-
Love to have you back in Michigan!
When will the dates/places be posted?
-Bryan in Traverse City