Comments on: In defense of pirates (and orthodox heretics)

By: Cole Montgomery

Cole Montgomery — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:28:46 +0000

Great post Pete

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By: Rachel

Rachel — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:06:54 +0000

I think this article made some interesting points, I read a textbook directly related to this topic, its called Global Issues, Local Arguments: Readings for Writing by , I found my used copy for less than the bookstores at http://www.belabooks.com/books/9780321244239.htm

By: Matt W.

Matt W. — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:30:52 +0000

If I were to summarize some of what you are saying, Pete, it would be using a quote from the historian Ranke: “Each age is immediate to God.”

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…Links for Your Linking Pleasure 36… « Community of the Risen — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:10:03 +0000

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By: Caroline Too

Caroline Too — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:42:29 +0000

I was pointed your way by Richard Sudworth’s blog, and I reached him via Jason Clark on Facebook, so I fear I represent the institutional, the orthodox and the conservative (although church friends would laugh at that) … I tend to like change for change’s sake, I think that we are in a time where the established patterns of church life need some overthrowing but I find the piracy analogy unhelpful. Yes, I see how it might draw our attention to transgressive regimes of trade, but I do not think that is the pirates intention and, whilst too often linked to individuals, intentionality is an important issue. My enemy’s enemy might not be a healthy friend for me, if ‘he’ sees me in the same light.

If our goal is to be faithful to Jesus, and his body, then to use the self seeking, greedy, violent (and piracy is and was systemically violent) seems odd at the very least, and doesn’t help make the points I hear you making.

I’ve always loved the Northumbria Community’s “Heretical Imperitive”, the idea that it is a part of our discipleship to ask the uncomfortable question, to challenge the status quo, to rattle the cages of the comfortable… but I sense in the Heretical Imperitive a from-withiness, whilst your challenge seems to be stone throwing from without. The wounds of a faithful friend will lead to healing and new life, the wounds from stones thrown at my glass house may well damage more than institutions.

The challenge I hear you making is good and helpful, it’s the language tools you’re using that seem unhelpful.

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Boojum! « C'est Tout Vrai — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:52:27 +0000

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Roméo Dallaire – witness to genocide. « New Covenant Christianity — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:59:58 +0000

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